Rock Music ... Satanic?!!

[Stoneth]

 Rock Music ... Satanic?!!

[Nate Blue]

rubbish is putting it lightly. i don't beleive any of that for one moment. for one, using a matrix on the bible is completely stupid. because you can use a matrix on anything and get some kind of code that can "predict the future" or anything of that nature. i bet you could use the same matrix to find in the bible that it says barny is satan or sesame street is actually hell on earth. you know what i mean? using this method you can find anything just by puting certain phrases and words and letters together . remember the bible code? that was a sham. they proved that it was simply by doing the same thing. it's like a "word search" game that kids use at school. this guy just doesn't like rock...and he's trying to find a way that no one else can enjoy it, i love country and rock! and just about all country music is christian oriented! and christian rock is awesome! i'm listening to 'faith like that" by jonah33 which is an holyspirit filling song!! -shakes fist-

[Saturday Evening]

Oh, geez. I agree with you both that that article is pretty much a load of crap. However, I can't say that I love rock music. I listen to a violin concerto or an aria or something and it's just so beautiful - the purity of the melody and the very sound itself - there's just something about real music that is...good, for lack of a more descriptive term. And I listen to hard rock - the discord, the screaming, the beats indicative of smashing, breaking...and there's something about it that rubs me the wrong way, in a deeper sense than a matter of taste.

Music is very much God's creation - it's rampant in nature, and in our own spirits to produce it. But since we have the capacity to produce music, and since we are inherently sinful, it's certainly possible for us to twist music to sinful measures. Before you flame me, I'm not applying that statement to rock music in any way; I'm just making a statement. I sure enjoy a good AC/DC album, but that's about as hard as I can get without just...not liking it. And I don't even like everything that's on AC/DC's level. And like I said, it's deeper than an opinion - something in me just rebels against the really hard stuff, the way my cat rebels against getting a bath (or something; I'm not great at on-the-spot analogies). Does anyone else feel that way?

Anyway, I don't think rock music is satanic. Yeah.

[VixyFox]

This topic is pretty much just plain dumb. Like Saturday mentioned, God gave us the abilitly to create music. So, the praise bands on sundays that do rock worship songs are singing to the devil? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

Rock music is just fine!!! :D :D :D :D

[Tevildo]

OK....

I don't have an opinion on rock music, but am I to understand it's being demonstrated as "Satanic" by selecting letters from the Hebrew Bible in an order that forms suitable words?

I'm sure that there are _many_ subjects that could be found Satanic (or blessed) by a similar technique. :) Depressing that people take it seriously, though.

[Stoneth]

So I guess we all seem to be in agreement on this issue. No one wants to play Devil's Advocate? (Pun intended.) :wink:

I guess since this article was writen by a Christian school teacher, I just wanted to put this forward to make sure I wasn't the only one who thought that this guy was full of it. Using a matrix isn't really an effective way to prove something.

[Antaeus]

Rock music is the Satanic music because it inspires the youth to go out and desecrate the name of the Lord. It is dangerous for a Christian society. Bands like Creed and Switchfoot are only further allowing for Satan to penetrate and rape the Church. That is gay as hell.

[Holly Ssnakes]

Antaeus:

Interesting-- I'm not accustomed to meeting whose philosophy works this way. Personally, my belief on human behavior is, that, after the age of reasoning, people are self-responsible for what they do. They are equipped to go beyond peer influence, and if they choose not to, then that is their fault.

I've done some pretty awful things, and I take full responsibility for them, because I wanted to do them at the time. I can't blame any outside force, because the choice was mine. Therefore, if youth, who are most definitely beyond the age of reasoning, choose to desecrate the name of the Lord, that falls as their responsibility, because they made the choice. It wasn't the music. Certainly, some music desecrates His name, but that doesn't mean that anyone who listens to it is forced to do so.

This is an echo of the analogy of jumping off a bridge.


Also, regarding your condemnation-- Do you not count black metal as a descendant of rock music? Destroyer 666 is black metal.

[Antaeus]

Black metal ist Krieg.

[Guest]

Antaeus

[Honeytail]

Rock is just another type of music that has made a bad name for itself, but that doesn't mean all heavy music is bad. I can list a bunch of bands right off the top of my head that are christian, AND black/death/doom metal :P

slechtvalk, crimson moonlight, horde, rackets and drapes, antestor, kekal, lengsel, living sacrifice, extol, holy blood, demon hunter, dark endless, the eternal chapter, Schaliach, stronghold, soul embraced, the agony scene, thousand foot krutch, haste the day, (old) evanescence, ashen mortality, haste the day, demon hunter, etc. just some of my personal favorites.

Anyway, yeah. I can see where some people might presume all rock to be satanic, a lot of it is. Heck I think AC/DC is more satanic than marilyn manson could ever hope to be. It's all in the lyrics, people should just do more investigating before labeling a whole community

[The Silver Coyote]

I didn't even bother reading the article that Stoneth originally brought up. I've seen and heard a lot of Christian folk rail against this type of music or that type of music. Whatever it is that the youth seem to like usually seems to draw the most fire, usually from older folks who don't take the time to listen to it and understand what is behind it. It just gets labeled "satanic", and others who have never heard the music at all react accordingly.

Me, I'm a middle-aged rocker. AC/DC is one of my favorite groups, but I'm very much enchanted with more modern stuff, too. I like the *music*. If I hear objectionable material in the lyrics, then it's my choice and my decision as a Christian adult to decide for myself whether or not that particular song, album, or artist is good or bad for me. And because I choose to not appreciate the lyrical content of a particular song in no way gives me the right to label that song "bad" or "satanic". It's just not right for me.

Music is what it is, whether it's rock, country, soul, R&B, jazz, classical... God gave many of us the ability to create music (some more blessed with this ability than others), and virtually all of us have been blessed with the ability to appreciate music and partake in it in some way. Whatever an artist's intent in creating it, each of us will take from it what we will. Each of us needs to make informed decisions about what's right or wrong for us to listen to and react accordingly. To classify an entire genre of music as "satanic" for any reason is kind of obtuse, and to justify the claim based on some mathematic hocus-pocus with claimed ties to the Bible is just stupid, in my opinion.

Christians do themselves a serious dis-service by publishing that kind of crap, and we all do ourselves a dis-service as humans when we try to force our beliefs or spins about something like music on others. If I want to listen to Green Day, I will, and I'll choose to ignore those rabid souls who are trying to convince me that their most recent album is all about the anti-christ. What I hear on that CD makes me feel good, as much of AC/DC's stuff does, and the music does absolutely nothing to shake my faith in Christ.

Guess I'll climb off my soapbox now...

SC

[Hsarc678]

Pffftttt! I listen to all kinds of rock and i'm still strong by God and Jesus's side.When I mean all,I mean even the stuff thats sung by people that have done some crazy and weird stuff in their lives that would oviously look like a huge no no to us. (I even take the time to pray for those people while I'm listening to their music.) I listen to rock music for many reasons. One being that if I get upset,I listen to some so that way I don't have to get all shouty and angry at someone I love. I just listen to it to calm me down,that way it releases all the crazy emotions I feel without hurting a loved one's feelings. The music has also given me insperation when I draw. God knows that I love him and that I wouldn't become a little "satanic person" when I listen to rock. I feel that it's all in what you choose to do when you listen to it.Who cares if the lyrics are horrid,you should know your place with God and stand firm. Look the music in the eye and listen to it with courage,knowing that you're stronger than some who'd fall prey to Satan. With God,you can do anything. He's love,he's courage,he's everything good. If you like rock,you like rock. If you don't like it,then you don't. Like I said,it's all that you choose that makes a difference. God stands back sometimes just to see what you'll deside.
Besides,there is Christian rock out there.

Btw,I just now noticed how old this is... LOL

[mrkrystal]

Galatians 1:7-9

"... Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!"

Also, I bet I could use the the matrix technique to prove all people named "Bill" are associated with "satanic" and other negative terms. Bible matrix codes have been disproven. You can find similarly "prophetic" messages by applying a matrix to Moby Dick.

[Sleet]

I can't speak for God, but if I were an all-creating deity, I certainly wouldn't send messages to people via a matrix designed by someone who agrees with the message applied to a translation of my Holy Word which wasn't directly written by me in the first place.

I would, yaknow, just put the message in said Holy Word. But that's silly. God would never do something that logical. Pfft.